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"Hello. My Name Is Inigo Montoya. You Killed My Father. Prepare to Die."

—Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

Various shows are popular or influential when it comes to tropes. One measure is how readily we name tropes from shows or other works.

This should not be done lightly and is not a badge of honor. Using trope namers lightly or as a badge of honor is Trope Namer Syndrome and leads to confusion, renames, and — as shown in the redlink in this page's quote — possible deletion of tropes.

A series usually gets to name a trope if it's so widely known for the trope (even outside the circle of nerds) it's basically an icon of it, or if it has a term for the situation that is simply Made of Win. Or if it happens to be the Trope Maker, too. Of course, we do kinda swing closer to the Geek side of things. But whaddaya expect? This is the Internet, after all!

Also, we at All The Tropes don't want tropes named directly after a trope namer, since the trope namer may always get its own page. If they are the Trope Namer, the trope name should reflect the difference, for example Rashomon Style. This is doubly true for characters, who must embody the trope so well that one could point to them and say "Yeah, kinda like him" and other tropers will immediately agree (without having to consult Google in the process).

Keep in mind, however, that calling a work "the Trope Namer" in the initial Trope Workshop write-up simply because you took the preliminary title from it (especially if you are naming the Trope after a character) is very presumptuous: chances are high that the troper Hive Mind will disagree about whether or not the work is widely known enough to qualify. Of course, such Trope proposals aren't technically named yet; the title may be subject to change in the Trope Workshop if someone else comes up with a better title. (For the purpose of actually finding a better title, see Naming a Trope.)

Sometimes we don't quite get it right the first time.

Renamed Tropes

Examples of Trope Namers are listed on these subpages, and should be moved to "tropenamer" sections on the relevant work pages:

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-{{quote|''[[Hello]]. [[My Name Is Inigo Montoya]]. [[You Killed My Father]]. [[Prepare to Die]].''|'''Inigo Montoya''', ''[[The Princess Bride (Film)|The Princess Bride]]''}}
+{{quote|''"[[Hello]]. [[My Name Is Inigo Montoya]]. [[You Killed My Father]]. [[Prepare to Die]]."''|'''Inigo Montoya''', ''[[The Princess Bride (film)|The Princess Bride]]''}}
-Various shows are [[Trope Overdosed|popular]] or [[Trope Makers|influential]] when it comes to [[Trope|tropes]]. One measure is how readily we name tropes from shows or other works.
+Various shows are [[Trope Overdosed|popular]] or [[Trope Maker|influential]] when it comes to [[trope]]s. One measure is how readily we name tropes from shows or other works.
-'''This should not be done lightly''' and is not a badge of honor. Using trope namers lightly or as a badge of honor is [[Trope Namer Syndrome]] and leads to confusion, renames, and possible deletion of tropes.
+'''This should not be done lightly''' and is not a badge of honor. Using trope namers lightly or as a badge of honor is [[Trope Namer Syndrome]] and leads to confusion, renames, and — as shown in the redlink in this page's quote — possible deletion of tropes.
-A series usually gets to name a trope if it's ''so'' widely known for the trope (even outside the [[Most Tropers Are Young Nerds|circle of nerds]]) it's basically an icon of it, or if it has a term for the situation that is simply [[TV Tropes Made of Win Archive]]. Or if it happens to be the [[Trope Maker]], too. Of course, since [[Most Tropers Are Young Nerds]], we do kinda swing closer to the [[Geek]] side of things. But whaddaya expect? This ''is'' the Internet, after all!
+A series usually gets to name a trope if it's ''so'' widely known for the trope (even outside the circle of nerds) it's basically an icon of it, or if it has a term for the situation that is simply [[Made of Win]]. Or if it happens to be the [[Trope Maker]], too. Of course, we do kinda swing closer to the [[Geek]] side of things. But whaddaya expect? This ''is'' [[the Internet]], after all!
+Also, we at All The Tropes don't want tropes named directly after a trope namer, since the trope namer may always get its own page. If they ''are'' the Trope Namer, the trope name should reflect the difference, for example [[Rashomon Style]]. This is doubly true for characters, who must [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"|embody the trope so well]] that one could point to them and say [[Iconic Characters|"Yeah, kinda like him"]] and other [[troper]]s will immediately agree ([[One Mario Limit|without having to consult Google]] in the process).
-Also, we at [[TV Tropes]] don't want tropes named directly after a trope namer, since the
-trope namer may always get its own page. If they ''are'' the Trope Namer, the trope name should reflect the difference, for example [[Rashomon Style]]. This is doubly true for characters, who must [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"|embody the trope so well]] that one could point to them and say [[Iconic Characters|"Yeah, kinda like him"]] and other [[Troper|tropers]] will immediately agree ([[One Mario Limit|without having to consult Google]] in the process).
-Keep in mind, however, that calling a work "the Trope Namer" in the initial YKTTW write-up simply because '''you''' took the preliminary title from it (''especially'' if you are naming the [[Trope]] after a character) is ''very'' presumptuous: chances are high that the troper [[Hive Mind]] will disagree about whether or not the work is widely known enough to qualify. Of course, such [[Trope]] proposals aren't technically ''named'' yet; the title may be subject to change in YKTTW if someone else comes up with a better title. (For the purpose of actually ''finding'' a better title, see [[Naming a Trope]].)
-Works and creators that have inspired trope names are listed in the subpages linked below.
-* [[Trope Namers/Anime and Manga|Anime and Manga]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Comic Books|Comic Books]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Film|Film]]
-** [[Trope Namers/Star Wars|Star Wars]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Internet|Internet]] (IRC and other websites)
-* [[Trope Namers/Literature|Literature]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Live Action TV|Live Action TV]] (includes Game Shows and Professional Wrestling)
-* [[Trope Namers/Music|Music]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Newspaper Comics|Newspaper Comics]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Religion and Myth|Religion and Myth]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Theater|Theater]] (also includes Opera and Musicals)
-* [[Trope Namers/Traditional Games|Traditional Games]] (includes Board Games, Card Games, and Tabletop Games)
-* [[Trope Namers/Video Games|Video Games]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Web Animation|Web Animation]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Webcomics|Webcomics]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Western Animation|Western Animation]]
-** [[Trope Namers/The Simpsons|The Simpsons]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Other Media|Other Media]]
-* [[Trope Namers/Real Life|Real Life]]
+Keep in mind, however, that calling a work "the Trope Namer" in the initial Trope Workshop write-up simply because '''you''' took the preliminary title from it (''especially'' if you are naming the [[Trope]] after a character) is ''very'' presumptuous: chances are high that the troper [[Hive Mind]] will disagree about whether or not the work is widely known enough to qualify. Of course, such [[Trope]] proposals aren't technically ''named'' yet; the title may be subject to change in the Trope Workshop if someone else comes up with a better title. (For the purpose of actually ''finding'' a better title, see [[Naming a Trope]].)
 Sometimes we don't quite get it right the first time.
 * [[Renamed Tropes]]
+{{examples on subpages|Examples of Trope Namers are listed on these subpages, and should be moved to "tropenamer" sections on the relevant work pages:}}
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-[[Category:Index Index/Sandbox]]
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