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A [[Trope]] which has gone way beyond being a [[Discredited Trope]] to where the very act of parodying and/or subverting that trope has itself become a trope.
A [[Trope]] which has gone way beyond being a [[Discredited Trope]] to where the very act of parodying and/or subverting that trope has itself become a trope.
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The progression is generally:
The progression is generally:


Clever idea → [[Trope]] → [[Discredited Trope]] → [[Dead Horse Trope]]. → Then, if the downward slide continues, it may end up as a [[Forgotten Trope]].
Clever idea → [[Trope]] → [[Discredited Trope]] → '''Dead Horse Trope'''. → Then, if the downward slide continues, it may end up as a [[Forgotten Trope]].


[[Trope Namer|Named for]] "Beating<ref>Or 'Flogging'</ref> a Dead Horse" - an old idiom that describes continuing to do something pointless long after it would be obvious to anybody not mentally handicapped/under the influence of the [[Sunk Cost Fallacy]] that said course of action will yield no results and is simply a waste of time. For instance, continuing to [[Trope Namer|whip a dead horse]] in an attempt to get it to wake up and start running - [[Captain Obvious|the horse is ''dead'']]; [[Don't Explain the Joke|it's not going to move anymore]].
[[Trope Namer|Named for]] "Beating<ref>Or 'Flogging'</ref> a Dead Horse" - an old idiom that describes continuing to do something pointless long after it would be obvious to anybody not mentally handicapped/under the influence of the [[Sunk Cost Fallacy]] that said course of action will yield no results and is simply a waste of time. For instance, continuing to [[Trope Namer|whip a dead horse]] in an attempt to get it to wake up and start running - [[Captain Obvious|the horse is ''dead'']]; [[Don't Explain the Joke|it's not going to move anymore]].


Naturally, [[Dead Horse Trope|Dead Horse Tropes]] tend to be [[The Oldest Ones in the Book]], too.
Naturally, '''Dead Horse Tropes''' tend to be [[The Oldest Ones in the Book]], too.


If a [[Dead Horse Trope]] is still used straight in recent works despite seemingly being subverted or parodied to death, it's an [[Undead Horse Trope]]. If it was never really played straight enough to be a trope in the first place, it's a [[Dead Unicorn Trope]]. If it was very popular in its days, and becomes infamous instead of forgotten, it's [[Deader Than Disco]]. If it's so natural to the medium of storytelling that it can still be played straight no matter how often it's used and abused, it's an [[Omnipresent Tropes|Omnipresent Trope]]. If the trope not only makes viewers/readers groan but also makes them angry, you've probably got a [[Pet Peeve Trope]].
If a '''Dead Horse Trope''' is still used straight in recent works despite seemingly being subverted or parodied to death, it's an [[Undead Horse Trope]]. If it was never really played straight enough to be a trope in the first place, it's a [[Dead Unicorn Trope]]. If it was very popular in its days, and becomes infamous instead of forgotten, it's [[Deader Than Disco]]. If it's so natural to the medium of storytelling that it can still be played straight no matter how often it's used and abused, it's an [[Omnipresent Tropes|Omnipresent Trope]]. If the trope not only makes viewers/readers groan but also makes them angry, you've probably got a [[Pet Peeve Trope]].


A common cause of [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]], because it's hard to imagine yourself back into the innocent frame of mind when this was ''new''.
A common cause of [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]], because it's hard to imagine yourself back into the innocent frame of mind when this was ''new''.
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* [[Blackmail Is Such an Ugly Word]]: "But in this case, it's appropriate."
* [[Blackmail Is Such an Ugly Word]]: "But in this case, it's appropriate."
* Anything with [[British Royal Guards]] in London.
* Anything with [[British Royal Guards]] in London.
* Due to their usage as far back as silent movies and early theatrical cartoons, some of the more common [[Death Trap]] conventions are [[Dead Horse Trope|dead horse tropes]]. [[Chained to a Railway]] and the [[Conveyor Belt O' Doom]] are prime examples.
* Due to their usage as far back as silent movies and early theatrical cartoons, some of the more common [[Death Trap]] conventions are '''dead horse tropes'''. [[Chained to a Railway]] and the [[Conveyor Belt O' Doom]] are prime examples.
** The [[Dastardly Whiplash]] mustache-twirling villain also present in such things is almost never used seriously these days.
** The [[Dastardly Whiplash]] mustache-twirling villain also present in such things is almost never used seriously these days.
* [[The Dark Age of Comic Books]]; while many series have continued to get [[Darker and Edgier]], the specific stylings of 90's comics, such as pouches, random metal ornamentation, and bizarre headpieces have all been parodied well after they went out of style.
* [[The Dark Age of Comic Books]]; while many series have continued to get [[Darker and Edgier]], the specific stylings of 90's comics, such as pouches, random metal ornamentation, and bizarre headpieces have all been parodied well after they went out of style.
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* The [[Greedy Jew]] stereotype in the western world, after it was used as a justification for the Holocaust.
* The [[Greedy Jew]] stereotype in the western world, after it was used as a justification for the Holocaust.
* [[G-Rated Sex]] in Japanese Anime and Manga (Which was already not popular for some reason), ended completely thanks to Ishihara's laws making sex in manga/anime/games a taboo topic.
* [[G-Rated Sex]] in Japanese Anime and Manga (Which was already not popular for some reason), ended completely thanks to Ishihara's laws making sex in manga/anime/games a taboo topic.
* Hippies are seldom played straight outside of sixties period pieces, having been mostly replaced by [[New Age Retro Hippie|New Age Retro Hippies]] and [[Granola Girl|Granola Girls]].
* Hippies are seldom played straight outside of sixties period pieces, having been mostly replaced by [[New Age Retro Hippie]]s and [[Granola Girl]]s.
* [[Hypno Ray]] (As well as hypnotizing as a plot device altogether, save for loads of justifications.)
* [[Hypno Ray]] (As well as hypnotizing as a plot device altogether, save for loads of justifications.)
* [[Instant Cultured]]
* [[Instant Cultured]]
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* [[Retirony]]: It's far more common to see this outright [[Discussed Trope|discussed]], [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] or [[Averted Trope|averted]] than played straight anymore.
* [[Retirony]]: It's far more common to see this outright [[Discussed Trope|discussed]], [[Subverted Trope|subverted]] or [[Averted Trope|averted]] than played straight anymore.
* [[Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue]]: Parodied more often than played straight.
* [[Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue]]: Parodied more often than played straight.
* [[Save the Princess]] -- had its days as an acceptable [[Excuse Plot]] in [[Video Games]], but those days are pretty much over. [[Grandfather Clause|Unless you're]] [[Mario]], and even he needs something beyond this.
* [[Save the Princess]]—had its days as an acceptable [[Excuse Plot]] in [[Video Games]], but those days are pretty much over. [[Grandfather Clause|Unless you're]] [[Mario]], and even he needs something beyond this.
* [[Scoring Points]] -- No one cares anymore.
* [[Scoring Points]]—No one cares anymore.
** In the West. Arcade gaming is still popular in East Asia
** In the West. Arcade gaming is still popular in East Asia
* [[Slow No]] -- This trope is mocked now.
* [[Slow No]]—This trope is mocked now.
* [[Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace]] -- not commonly used in [[Real Life]], either.
* [[Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace]]—not commonly used in [[Real Life]], either.
* [[Standard Fifties Father]]: The [[Bumbling Dad]] has become so prevalent in modern media that showing a sensible, competent father is <s> almost</s> a subversion in itself.
* [[Standard Fifties Father]]: The [[Bumbling Dad]] has become so prevalent in modern media that showing a sensible, competent father is <s> almost</s> a subversion in itself.
* [[Subverted Suspicion Aesop]] - This type of Suspicion Aesop is NEVER played straight- there's a reason that [[Subverted Trope|Subverted]] is in the page title. Sometimes a [[Double Subversion]] is put on it, but it's never played straight.
* [[Subverted Suspicion Aesop]] - This type of Suspicion Aesop is NEVER played straight- there's a reason that [[Subverted Trope|Subverted]] is in the page title. Sometimes a [[Double Subversion]] is put on it, but it's never played straight.
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[[Category:Dead Horse Trope]]
[[Category:Dead Horse Trope]]

Revision as of 18:28, 22 February 2015

A Trope which has gone way beyond being a Discredited Trope to where the very act of parodying and/or subverting that trope has itself become a trope.

The progression is generally:

Clever idea → TropeDiscredited TropeDead Horse Trope. → Then, if the downward slide continues, it may end up as a Forgotten Trope.

Named for "Beating[1] a Dead Horse" - an old idiom that describes continuing to do something pointless long after it would be obvious to anybody not mentally handicapped/under the influence of the Sunk Cost Fallacy that said course of action will yield no results and is simply a waste of time. For instance, continuing to whip a dead horse in an attempt to get it to wake up and start running - the horse is dead; it's not going to move anymore.

Naturally, Dead Horse Tropes tend to be The Oldest Ones in the Book, too.

If a Dead Horse Trope is still used straight in recent works despite seemingly being subverted or parodied to death, it's an Undead Horse Trope. If it was never really played straight enough to be a trope in the first place, it's a Dead Unicorn Trope. If it was very popular in its days, and becomes infamous instead of forgotten, it's Deader Than Disco. If it's so natural to the medium of storytelling that it can still be played straight no matter how often it's used and abused, it's an Omnipresent Trope. If the trope not only makes viewers/readers groan but also makes them angry, you've probably got a Pet Peeve Trope.

A common cause of Seinfeld Is Unfunny, because it's hard to imagine yourself back into the innocent frame of mind when this was new.

Examples of Dead Horse Trope include:

Power Rangers SPD Monster of the Week: "Enough posing! Let's FIGHT!"

  • Tall, Dark and Handsome
    • More like an Undead, Cyclic Trope that alternates with Knight in Shining Armor. Because of both of these tropes in combination with The Hero and Anti-Hero, a story can keep the audience in suspense about where exactly it will land on the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism.
    • On the most literal level, however, this trope is still alive and well. After all, Americans and northern Europeans are on the average taller than other peoples; black and brown are still the most common hair colors; and Hollywood Homely has yet to become a widespread, non-ironic look for protagonists.
  • Take Me to Your Leader: Despite the fact that there is some Truth in Television in the sense that an explorer in a distant land, upon meeting some of the locals, might wish to speak with whoever's in charge around here, the form of this where visiting extraterrestrials request this is almost never played straight these days.
  • Torches and Pitchforks
  • Trope 2000: In part due to the fact that we are already in the 21st century. This got replaced with IProduct.
  • Utopia is mostly deconstructed in these days.
  • Because many drama series deal with touchy real life subjects these days as a matter of course, the Very Special Episode is more often parodied than played straight these days.
  • Vampire Vords
  • Working on the Chain Gang: The punishment was once very commonplace in Southern US states up until the mid-1950s. Today only a single county in Arizona remains as the one place that still makes use of chain gangs, although inmates serving on these ones aren't shackled together anymore. Nowadays, chain gangs mostly just exist in period pieces in media that involve prisoners in the early half of the 20th Century. Replaced with "community service" nowadays; usually a crew of guys filling potholes on the highway or picking up litter in the park, but these activities aren't gritty or sexy enough for Hollywood so they rarely show up in media.
  1. Or 'Flogging'